tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2612768128042613255.post7273985486291636928..comments2024-01-11T19:32:48.134-07:00Comments on Degenerasian: My Thoughts on the Canadian Politial CrisisDegenerasianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12390817127237358193noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2612768128042613255.post-13836960852083714852008-12-01T21:42:00.000-07:002008-12-01T21:42:00.000-07:00Boris,Agreed but I just don't like the word suppor...Boris,<BR/><BR/>Agreed but I just don't like the word support. They should be in on this signing as an official partner and having cabinet ministers with responsibility.<BR/><BR/>I am a conservative but I would not be against a 3-party coalition it it makes parliament work. But to have 2 partners and 1 supporter, I don't know....<BR/><BR/>To me it feels like the Bloc gets a free ride. They are not part of the coalition but support it (under their terms) And if the coalition dies, they just let go and don't take any of the blame.Degenerasianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390817127237358193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2612768128042613255.post-69919130497269334562008-12-01T19:55:00.000-07:002008-12-01T19:55:00.000-07:00Degenerasian,Actually, the Bloc is providing offic...Degenerasian,<BR/>Actually, the Bloc is providing official support. It has, in writing, agreed to support a NDP-Lib government until at least mid-2010. This means that on most issues the the will of the coalition (which in turn represents the will of the majority of Canadians), regardless of whether the Bloc has cabinet positions, is the will of parliament. Perhaps another way of looking at this is to consider that the Conservatives can no long count on the support of the other parties in passing legislation, effectively neutralising that party as a government. The alternative then is either another election, or a coalition. <BR/><BR/>You may not like it, but thems the way it works.Borishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952672409601421466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2612768128042613255.post-68998738725042781622008-12-01T18:28:00.000-07:002008-12-01T18:28:00.000-07:00"Dion does have majority support"How so? 'support ..."Dion does have majority support"<BR/><BR/>How so? 'support from the Bloc" doesn't count as official majority.<BR/><BR/>"The Bloc Québécois would not officially be a part of the coalition" <BR/><BR/>This is the main thing for me. If the Bloc wants to official sign on and I'm fine with it. Harper deserves to be pushed out IF the three parties agree to be.<BR/><BR/>But to have 2 parties gain power and the other just 'support'.<BR/>I don't buy that. Dion's been taken to the cleaners.Degenerasianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390817127237358193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2612768128042613255.post-86605808302562174592008-12-01T15:02:00.000-07:002008-12-01T15:02:00.000-07:00"There cannot be a coalition that has less seats c..."There cannot be a coalition that has less seats combined then another party."<BR/><BR/>Yes, there can. Harper right now doesn't have power with the support of the Bloc or another party. He has no majority support, so he doesn't get to govern. Dion does have majority support, so he does. When he loses a confidence vote and there are no more alternatives to passing legislation, an election is called. That's how our parliamentary democracy is designed to work. It's only that it hasn't worked in so long that some people forgot what it's supposed to do in a minority situation.<BR/><BR/>When the governing party chooses a new leader, that person becomes PM. See Kim Campbell or Paul Martin for recent examples of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com